Generational Gaps (cont’d)
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qulevriusТема, как и ожидалось, горячая и за неделю народ накидал аж 160 с лишним постов. Я всё копировать, естественно, не буду. Выкладываю оригинал, выборочно. Если понадобится, потом переведу.
Первый пост:
«I’ve been thinking about this a bit lately. I know I’ve certainly hit that point in my career where I can see the obvious gaps in society’s culture shifts, what’s right, wrong, or indifferent, et
While like any job there are several generations worth of people in the workforce, I think our field is unique in that you may be “stuck” with someone old enough to be your parents/ young enough to be your child. Sometimes it works out no problem, other times not so much.
My personal opinion is that many things now seem to be blown out of proportion on a whole new scale, thanks in large part to the advent of SM.
We seem convinced other’s opinions are where we need to be for validation in our lives. When did this happen? Was it truly the SM era? I’m sure it goes deeper.
I’d love to hear your guys’ thoughts—all sides. So let’s have a convo.
FWIW, this is from a guy trying to raise his kids right in the midst of all of this. And yes, I realize I am not alone in that. Thanks all.»
Реакции:
«Kids are on the YouTube, learning how to be cool.” (Toby Keith, American Ride)
People had self validation issues in the past as well, but they had a better social engagement with their peers. Then SM rolled in. Now if you’re socially awkward, it’s not a big deal online because what used to be “weird”, is now called “special”. But once the “special” person steps out of their comfort zone, suddenly it’s a shock to their system.
Now, I wouldn’t blame the “special” person as much as I’d blame whoever raised them, but at the same time there’s a whole generation of maladjusted Americans. There are sound exceptions of course, but as with any exception these are far and between.
I would also like to point an accusing finger towards the education system for turning schools of every kind, into goddamn flower beds where they grow socially inept vegetables. And that has a LOT to do with politics, but that’s a shitpot I’m not willing to stir here.»
***
«Kids have never changed, it's the parenting that has.
Parents are the ones who shove an iPad into the hands of their crying toddler.
Parents raise their children and enculture them to the social norms that they will see, engage in play with, and ultimately develop as their own behaviors.
Parents are the ones arguing with teachers and school administrators that their child cannot be held accountable to academic or behavioral expectations.
I honestly believe in the next few decades we are going to see a large divide between those who are socially, academically, and fiscally successful and those who are not. Unlike in the past where this was caused by racism, familial wealth, neighborhoods, quality of school districts, and so on it will instead be determined by how bad or good your parenting was.»
***
« Hmm. Disclaimer, not everything is true to everyone my age group and I certainly don't believe it all.
Well my folks are big into memes. I'm too young to be a millennial. They are like 30 with kids.
We're used to having people look down on us. Say we have poor work ethic or acting like we know everything. Doesn't even matter if it's true or not.
Going to work and school is harder than it used to be with inflation and many boomers just don't get it. We are tired of "When I was your age".
Many of us are doomers, thinking the world has gone to crap and there's not much in the way of fixing it.
Technology is our thing. The latest apps, trends and things are a central hub for us to communicate.
Some of us are hyper-agressive due to them thinking they're a victim because they've beg raised told that. Things like actual physical tantrums are coming back.
Gender issues are peak. Some say you can be anything you say and that's okay. Biology becomes an archaic concept.
Things like expressing one's self are also peak. Colored hair, tattoos and other things show others the kind of person you are. It's an advertisement of sorts, but don't call it that.
Casual romance means you have power. Your body becomes a bargaining chip. But don't call it that either or they'll get mad.
Moving out at 18 is less a thing. It's just costing more money to do and many parents don't mind.
In the workplace, we dress more casually than others. If we don't like how things are, we know eventually things will change when the older people die out.
Many think free healthcare and other things are a right, voting for something else means you side with the rich and powerful and evil.
Racism and sexism and thinking people are nazis are back in style to get mad about.
In a home life, most people I talk to think moving in before marriage is mandatory. That abortion is a right.
Messaging with someone in the same room or next to you is okay. It's not really different than talking.
Trying to greet someone with a firm handshake isn't really needed anymore. It might be unwanted touching or presumptuous.
We get news from memes and social sites like Facebook and reddit.
If they're the kind to do it, doing keto, yoga, etc is a way to be healthy. Paying more for meal prep that's catered to you. Essential oils to fix things instead of meds.
They kind of try to reject the prior culture, seemingly because they can.
Not trying to start anything, but [username] would be a prime example of those that they dislike due to the complex he/she has. That is the kind of thinking that makes us quit jobs or report people for hostile work environments or such. In EMS we're a bit different, but if they managed a retail store or restaurant, they'd be prime example of a popular Twitter series about a bad boss.
Largely because it's "I'm your boss and this is how it is. Little people don't matter and you should listen to me" is the kind of vibe you get from it.
And nowadays we want to be heard. Even if we're wrong, we want to be able to say our piece instead of being shut down. We have different priorities.
Pets are kids. Furbabies, scalebabies etc. We buy then lavish items and food and cater to them. And if we had to take time off for our pets well being and then we're in trouble for not being at work? Heartless boss. It would be a *Nobody liked that* kind of thing.
The idea of a powerful woman appeals to the female group. Like Mortica or something like that from the Addams family. She, Daria and a few others are popular figures.
Entertainment is largely digital. Phone apps, movies, Netflix etc are just ways to kill time and relax. Other things are not cost effective and should be carefully planned.
Language.
Things like "Mood", "Big Oof" , "Oof", "F", "Vibing", "Yeet", "Big Sad" portray emotions.
"Bois", "Birbs", "Floofs", and other such words exist to make things lighthearted. Bois are like good people or things and can be used as bois or with a description. Birbs are bird. Floofs are anything fluffy, usual an animal.
"Absolute unit", "Thicc", "Chonkers" are bigger things that are comical or funny usually. If you saw a particularly large fluffy dog one might say "This boi is a heccin chonkers floof, he thicc".
Thicc is good. Can refer to animals, people or non life forms. Most things can be referred to anything if used properly
Mood is often like a sad realization but can be good mood depending on prior context.
Big sad is a way to talk about depression without getting to clinical and kind of make it okay.
F means you feel badly for a situation.
Oof is kinda like "cringe" but less severe. Big oof is a step inbetween.
If a buddy pokes at you, especially if they're right you might say "Boi", all by itself. It just means they're pushing it, but in a comical way.
"Right in the feels" means that's triggered an emotion response, often a kind of sadness or nostalgia. or it hit hard.
I could go on, but if you read that and are still confused, I'll throw an f in chat for our bois we lost.
A lot of humor has turned dark, to nihilism, self deprecation etc.
But there's also a line of trying to get help when needed, especially mental health. There's things like "Lifting ya bois up" and bring "Queens" and "Kings". Kings and queens are good people that don't get bothered and in the face of hardship don't give up. They lift others up.
Or they've done something famous that was considered to be sufficient. Like if a guy had a bad boss so he decided to get even by like doing something crazy or clever and unapologetic. Like if you got an unjust fine and paid in pennies.
Things like sending a meme (excuse my language) that says "Did you drink water today, you filthy *****" means you care. Water and hydration memes are in season.
Calling a friend a ho isn't bad if it's not meant to be.
We have become pretty derogatory and fowl mouthed and kinda uncouth.
A lot of us don't want to immediately settle down but want to enjoy life first. Having kids is often time not really a part of that. Referring to children as animals, monsters "crotch goblins" and other things are common. They're an expense and hindrance and not really what we want right now.
Being yourself and trying to make your own way means you realized you don't want to suffer under the yoke your parents tried to pass onto you. Just because it's done doesn't mean we want any part of it.
Women will encourage each other to dump men they think are bad to an extreme degree. "Sis, leave him" to a girl you met once isn't really ask that unacceptable if she's given you the story about them.
Immediate family bonds are not as strong, especially if the child thinks they've been wronged constantly. People my age increasingly encourage others to sever ties to toxic family members and pursue what they want instead.
Parenting now means you probably need to be your kids friend more than before. You need to be "cooler" and on their level. Otherwise they'll think you're just judgmental and things will fall on deaf ears.
I won't forget how I taught my dad memes and we were in the living room. We'd bright food in and the trash was still there. Crumbs and plates, not a huge mess. But, He goes "Do you want ants, this is how you get ants" and I couldn't argue that.
If your kid wants to buy something and it's not a good deal, (excuse my language again) "The price is too damn high" might come into play.
Of course everything doesn't have to be memes or internet speak, but if you know the lingo, you might get a "Speech 100" moment you might not have.
Talking down to us like we'll never achieve anything is old news. That just means you're an old curmudgeon. Teaching and leading by example is not new, but more important.
We can be easily amused by things like a "Yeet cannon" or "Boaty McBoat Face". The pictures of an inflatable dying giant yellow duck on the Thames, a story someone told, whatever.
If you're very entertained by it, "I'm dying ☠💀☠" is appropriate.
It's become very Zoomer vs Boomer kind of thing. Okay boomer is our way of saying that we don't really care that you're so out of touch. Like we tried but it's not gonna work so we're stopping trying.
A Karen is a generic complainer who makes mountains out of molehills. Often times middle aged, possibly divorced.
A Kyle is a high energy guy. The drinking monster and punching drywall is a testament to his power. Shaggy from Scooby Doo is a symbol of raw power on a godlike level. Like scary powerful, less Kyleish and more just plain destruction.
Maybe I've kind of deviated from the point but these things are our culture. If someone online gets upset over nothing or even if it'd a friend and we want to let them know they're being too much "Calm down Kyle/Karen" is a way to say it. Among friends it's fun, among internet strangers it's an insult.
Discord serves for chat via text and voice are popular. You pick what servers to be in.
Things change faster and faster and for those who can't keep up, oof.
If you want a specific answer, more than happy to oblige.»
***
«When I was growing up in the '50s, there was zero concern among us boomers about being respected by our parents. We would have settled for a little more TV time and between-meal snacking. Respect generally went in one direction: from the younger to the older. I didn't think of my father, a WWII vet, as a member of "the greatest generation"; I just thought of him as my father, which was reason enough to respect him.
Yes, parents in the '50s complained about "kids these days" as much as ever. I think I was mildly put off by that, but there was little disagreement (until the late '60s) that the older knew better than the younger.»
***
«Mid 70s here. We were encouraged to earn our pocket money, rather than expect the parents to give it to us. Looking for pick up jobs was also our responsibility. Respecting people older than us was an axiom, and being arrogant or smug usually ended up with our arses kicked. And the main difference between “now” and “then” is that we did not demand respect from older generation just because we felt so; we were taught that respect is always earned, never given.»
***
«WORK. Earn respect. It’s not a given just because you got a trophy for losing a soccer game. Life doesn’t tolerate losers. Relying on mommy and daddy and the G to fund your lifestyle is just another example of an inability to be a productive member of society. So is relying on a piece of electronics to validate your life.
If WWII happened today, the US would lose...because the generations who would have to protect us aren’t interested in it nor able to function, except for a dwindling few here and there. They have no sense of Duty, Honor, or Country.
Today’s supposed enlightened youth are mostly a pathetic bunch of self centered entitled whiners, who can’t fight there way out of a wet paper bag. They have no clue about the world, politics, or life. They take all their directions from the same group they are in just because they shout louder or post inane memes on the Internet. They think they are astute, but they are just ignorant.
Ask them to validate a point and they turn red, throw a tantrum, then accuse people of being biased against one of the thousands of made up gender/ethic/lifestyle choices. They can’t even figure out if they are male or female. Hint: check the plumbing, it’s a start.
More than 3/4s of them don’t know history, nor think its relevant. They want to have a degree but get upset when they are told they have to memorize and learn things, then produce arguments to support them. They feel that they can get through life by GTS because it’s just as good as knowing it.
They can’t even change a flat tire. Smart cars aren’t smart, they are designed because today’s users can’t drive, they need others to do things for them.
If C19 hits, they will die off, not because of the disease, but because the machines that allow them to text/tweet/etc don’t function. And since that is life to them, they will not survive because nature abhors a vacuum.»
***
«Our generation is upset because we can't even have human dignity without having "earned" it. So we'll just wait all the boomers out. The older gen can't win a war of attrition.»
***
«I too, would like to know what is it exactly that Gen Z have gone through. Except for the Afghan/Iraq vets, who are obviously not posting here.
You’re talking about struggles and complaints. You’re saying it’s been brushed off; I say “suck it up, princess”. You think your generation is unique, same as every other generation before you. Sorry to break it to you, but there’s no such thing. The only “uniqueness” is the way each generation goes about it.
What your generation is doing now (and what we’ve never done) is called throwing a temper tantrum on an unprecedented scale, and hoping to get away with it. The people who enabled your generation, are not a part of it. They’re much older and smarter, and a part of a political establishment with their own agenda. They did not just create a generational gap; they opened a bottomless chasm between you and those that came before you.
Now you’re within your right to ask what the hell am I talking about, because clearly we’re not getting through to you. Allow me to explain: this is a means of control on a mass scale.
See, we’re on the opposite ends of the spectrum here. Whilst I’m talking about responsibilities, you’re bringing up mental health; I mention values and you post a dissertation on internet slang.
What you fail to comprehend is that I and other “old farts” here are not trying to teach you how to live your life. All we’re trying to do is to show you the roots of everyone’s frustration. It’s not that we know better - we just see a much bigger, intricate picture because we have this thing called “life experience”.
You too, will get there one day. But until then - stop being a goddamn brat.»
***
Далее следуетдикий срач Монументальное Противостояние между «стариками» и «салагами» (точнее, одним салажонком), которое читать интересно, но утомительно. Вкратце - салажонок вешает стены текста, обвиняя всех и вся в своих злоключениях; старики сначала пытаются его урезонить, но потом теряют терпение и напрямую посылают нахуй. В общем, всё достаточно предсказуемо.
Первый пост:
«I’ve been thinking about this a bit lately. I know I’ve certainly hit that point in my career where I can see the obvious gaps in society’s culture shifts, what’s right, wrong, or indifferent, et
While like any job there are several generations worth of people in the workforce, I think our field is unique in that you may be “stuck” with someone old enough to be your parents/ young enough to be your child. Sometimes it works out no problem, other times not so much.
My personal opinion is that many things now seem to be blown out of proportion on a whole new scale, thanks in large part to the advent of SM.
We seem convinced other’s opinions are where we need to be for validation in our lives. When did this happen? Was it truly the SM era? I’m sure it goes deeper.
I’d love to hear your guys’ thoughts—all sides. So let’s have a convo.
FWIW, this is from a guy trying to raise his kids right in the midst of all of this. And yes, I realize I am not alone in that. Thanks all.»
Реакции:
«Kids are on the YouTube, learning how to be cool.” (Toby Keith, American Ride)
People had self validation issues in the past as well, but they had a better social engagement with their peers. Then SM rolled in. Now if you’re socially awkward, it’s not a big deal online because what used to be “weird”, is now called “special”. But once the “special” person steps out of their comfort zone, suddenly it’s a shock to their system.
Now, I wouldn’t blame the “special” person as much as I’d blame whoever raised them, but at the same time there’s a whole generation of maladjusted Americans. There are sound exceptions of course, but as with any exception these are far and between.
I would also like to point an accusing finger towards the education system for turning schools of every kind, into goddamn flower beds where they grow socially inept vegetables. And that has a LOT to do with politics, but that’s a shitpot I’m not willing to stir here.»
***
«Kids have never changed, it's the parenting that has.
Parents are the ones who shove an iPad into the hands of their crying toddler.
Parents raise their children and enculture them to the social norms that they will see, engage in play with, and ultimately develop as their own behaviors.
Parents are the ones arguing with teachers and school administrators that their child cannot be held accountable to academic or behavioral expectations.
I honestly believe in the next few decades we are going to see a large divide between those who are socially, academically, and fiscally successful and those who are not. Unlike in the past where this was caused by racism, familial wealth, neighborhoods, quality of school districts, and so on it will instead be determined by how bad or good your parenting was.»
***
« Hmm. Disclaimer, not everything is true to everyone my age group and I certainly don't believe it all.
Well my folks are big into memes. I'm too young to be a millennial. They are like 30 with kids.
We're used to having people look down on us. Say we have poor work ethic or acting like we know everything. Doesn't even matter if it's true or not.
Going to work and school is harder than it used to be with inflation and many boomers just don't get it. We are tired of "When I was your age".
Many of us are doomers, thinking the world has gone to crap and there's not much in the way of fixing it.
Technology is our thing. The latest apps, trends and things are a central hub for us to communicate.
Some of us are hyper-agressive due to them thinking they're a victim because they've beg raised told that. Things like actual physical tantrums are coming back.
Gender issues are peak. Some say you can be anything you say and that's okay. Biology becomes an archaic concept.
Things like expressing one's self are also peak. Colored hair, tattoos and other things show others the kind of person you are. It's an advertisement of sorts, but don't call it that.
Casual romance means you have power. Your body becomes a bargaining chip. But don't call it that either or they'll get mad.
Moving out at 18 is less a thing. It's just costing more money to do and many parents don't mind.
In the workplace, we dress more casually than others. If we don't like how things are, we know eventually things will change when the older people die out.
Many think free healthcare and other things are a right, voting for something else means you side with the rich and powerful and evil.
Racism and sexism and thinking people are nazis are back in style to get mad about.
In a home life, most people I talk to think moving in before marriage is mandatory. That abortion is a right.
Messaging with someone in the same room or next to you is okay. It's not really different than talking.
Trying to greet someone with a firm handshake isn't really needed anymore. It might be unwanted touching or presumptuous.
We get news from memes and social sites like Facebook and reddit.
If they're the kind to do it, doing keto, yoga, etc is a way to be healthy. Paying more for meal prep that's catered to you. Essential oils to fix things instead of meds.
They kind of try to reject the prior culture, seemingly because they can.
Not trying to start anything, but [username] would be a prime example of those that they dislike due to the complex he/she has. That is the kind of thinking that makes us quit jobs or report people for hostile work environments or such. In EMS we're a bit different, but if they managed a retail store or restaurant, they'd be prime example of a popular Twitter series about a bad boss.
Largely because it's "I'm your boss and this is how it is. Little people don't matter and you should listen to me" is the kind of vibe you get from it.
And nowadays we want to be heard. Even if we're wrong, we want to be able to say our piece instead of being shut down. We have different priorities.
Pets are kids. Furbabies, scalebabies etc. We buy then lavish items and food and cater to them. And if we had to take time off for our pets well being and then we're in trouble for not being at work? Heartless boss. It would be a *Nobody liked that* kind of thing.
The idea of a powerful woman appeals to the female group. Like Mortica or something like that from the Addams family. She, Daria and a few others are popular figures.
Entertainment is largely digital. Phone apps, movies, Netflix etc are just ways to kill time and relax. Other things are not cost effective and should be carefully planned.
Language.
Things like "Mood", "Big Oof" , "Oof", "F", "Vibing", "Yeet", "Big Sad" portray emotions.
"Bois", "Birbs", "Floofs", and other such words exist to make things lighthearted. Bois are like good people or things and can be used as bois or with a description. Birbs are bird. Floofs are anything fluffy, usual an animal.
"Absolute unit", "Thicc", "Chonkers" are bigger things that are comical or funny usually. If you saw a particularly large fluffy dog one might say "This boi is a heccin chonkers floof, he thicc".
Thicc is good. Can refer to animals, people or non life forms. Most things can be referred to anything if used properly
Mood is often like a sad realization but can be good mood depending on prior context.
Big sad is a way to talk about depression without getting to clinical and kind of make it okay.
F means you feel badly for a situation.
Oof is kinda like "cringe" but less severe. Big oof is a step inbetween.
If a buddy pokes at you, especially if they're right you might say "Boi", all by itself. It just means they're pushing it, but in a comical way.
"Right in the feels" means that's triggered an emotion response, often a kind of sadness or nostalgia. or it hit hard.
I could go on, but if you read that and are still confused, I'll throw an f in chat for our bois we lost.
A lot of humor has turned dark, to nihilism, self deprecation etc.
But there's also a line of trying to get help when needed, especially mental health. There's things like "Lifting ya bois up" and bring "Queens" and "Kings". Kings and queens are good people that don't get bothered and in the face of hardship don't give up. They lift others up.
Or they've done something famous that was considered to be sufficient. Like if a guy had a bad boss so he decided to get even by like doing something crazy or clever and unapologetic. Like if you got an unjust fine and paid in pennies.
Things like sending a meme (excuse my language) that says "Did you drink water today, you filthy *****" means you care. Water and hydration memes are in season.
Calling a friend a ho isn't bad if it's not meant to be.
We have become pretty derogatory and fowl mouthed and kinda uncouth.
A lot of us don't want to immediately settle down but want to enjoy life first. Having kids is often time not really a part of that. Referring to children as animals, monsters "crotch goblins" and other things are common. They're an expense and hindrance and not really what we want right now.
Being yourself and trying to make your own way means you realized you don't want to suffer under the yoke your parents tried to pass onto you. Just because it's done doesn't mean we want any part of it.
Women will encourage each other to dump men they think are bad to an extreme degree. "Sis, leave him" to a girl you met once isn't really ask that unacceptable if she's given you the story about them.
Immediate family bonds are not as strong, especially if the child thinks they've been wronged constantly. People my age increasingly encourage others to sever ties to toxic family members and pursue what they want instead.
Parenting now means you probably need to be your kids friend more than before. You need to be "cooler" and on their level. Otherwise they'll think you're just judgmental and things will fall on deaf ears.
I won't forget how I taught my dad memes and we were in the living room. We'd bright food in and the trash was still there. Crumbs and plates, not a huge mess. But, He goes "Do you want ants, this is how you get ants" and I couldn't argue that.
If your kid wants to buy something and it's not a good deal, (excuse my language again) "The price is too damn high" might come into play.
Of course everything doesn't have to be memes or internet speak, but if you know the lingo, you might get a "Speech 100" moment you might not have.
Talking down to us like we'll never achieve anything is old news. That just means you're an old curmudgeon. Teaching and leading by example is not new, but more important.
We can be easily amused by things like a "Yeet cannon" or "Boaty McBoat Face". The pictures of an inflatable dying giant yellow duck on the Thames, a story someone told, whatever.
If you're very entertained by it, "I'm dying ☠💀☠" is appropriate.
It's become very Zoomer vs Boomer kind of thing. Okay boomer is our way of saying that we don't really care that you're so out of touch. Like we tried but it's not gonna work so we're stopping trying.
A Karen is a generic complainer who makes mountains out of molehills. Often times middle aged, possibly divorced.
A Kyle is a high energy guy. The drinking monster and punching drywall is a testament to his power. Shaggy from Scooby Doo is a symbol of raw power on a godlike level. Like scary powerful, less Kyleish and more just plain destruction.
Maybe I've kind of deviated from the point but these things are our culture. If someone online gets upset over nothing or even if it'd a friend and we want to let them know they're being too much "Calm down Kyle/Karen" is a way to say it. Among friends it's fun, among internet strangers it's an insult.
Discord serves for chat via text and voice are popular. You pick what servers to be in.
Things change faster and faster and for those who can't keep up, oof.
If you want a specific answer, more than happy to oblige.»
***
«When I was growing up in the '50s, there was zero concern among us boomers about being respected by our parents. We would have settled for a little more TV time and between-meal snacking. Respect generally went in one direction: from the younger to the older. I didn't think of my father, a WWII vet, as a member of "the greatest generation"; I just thought of him as my father, which was reason enough to respect him.
Yes, parents in the '50s complained about "kids these days" as much as ever. I think I was mildly put off by that, but there was little disagreement (until the late '60s) that the older knew better than the younger.»
***
«Mid 70s here. We were encouraged to earn our pocket money, rather than expect the parents to give it to us. Looking for pick up jobs was also our responsibility. Respecting people older than us was an axiom, and being arrogant or smug usually ended up with our arses kicked. And the main difference between “now” and “then” is that we did not demand respect from older generation just because we felt so; we were taught that respect is always earned, never given.»
***
«WORK. Earn respect. It’s not a given just because you got a trophy for losing a soccer game. Life doesn’t tolerate losers. Relying on mommy and daddy and the G to fund your lifestyle is just another example of an inability to be a productive member of society. So is relying on a piece of electronics to validate your life.
If WWII happened today, the US would lose...because the generations who would have to protect us aren’t interested in it nor able to function, except for a dwindling few here and there. They have no sense of Duty, Honor, or Country.
Today’s supposed enlightened youth are mostly a pathetic bunch of self centered entitled whiners, who can’t fight there way out of a wet paper bag. They have no clue about the world, politics, or life. They take all their directions from the same group they are in just because they shout louder or post inane memes on the Internet. They think they are astute, but they are just ignorant.
Ask them to validate a point and they turn red, throw a tantrum, then accuse people of being biased against one of the thousands of made up gender/ethic/lifestyle choices. They can’t even figure out if they are male or female. Hint: check the plumbing, it’s a start.
More than 3/4s of them don’t know history, nor think its relevant. They want to have a degree but get upset when they are told they have to memorize and learn things, then produce arguments to support them. They feel that they can get through life by GTS because it’s just as good as knowing it.
They can’t even change a flat tire. Smart cars aren’t smart, they are designed because today’s users can’t drive, they need others to do things for them.
If C19 hits, they will die off, not because of the disease, but because the machines that allow them to text/tweet/etc don’t function. And since that is life to them, they will not survive because nature abhors a vacuum.»
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«Our generation is upset because we can't even have human dignity without having "earned" it. So we'll just wait all the boomers out. The older gen can't win a war of attrition.»
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«I too, would like to know what is it exactly that Gen Z have gone through. Except for the Afghan/Iraq vets, who are obviously not posting here.
You’re talking about struggles and complaints. You’re saying it’s been brushed off; I say “suck it up, princess”. You think your generation is unique, same as every other generation before you. Sorry to break it to you, but there’s no such thing. The only “uniqueness” is the way each generation goes about it.
What your generation is doing now (and what we’ve never done) is called throwing a temper tantrum on an unprecedented scale, and hoping to get away with it. The people who enabled your generation, are not a part of it. They’re much older and smarter, and a part of a political establishment with their own agenda. They did not just create a generational gap; they opened a bottomless chasm between you and those that came before you.
Now you’re within your right to ask what the hell am I talking about, because clearly we’re not getting through to you. Allow me to explain: this is a means of control on a mass scale.
See, we’re on the opposite ends of the spectrum here. Whilst I’m talking about responsibilities, you’re bringing up mental health; I mention values and you post a dissertation on internet slang.
What you fail to comprehend is that I and other “old farts” here are not trying to teach you how to live your life. All we’re trying to do is to show you the roots of everyone’s frustration. It’s not that we know better - we just see a much bigger, intricate picture because we have this thing called “life experience”.
You too, will get there one day. But until then - stop being a goddamn brat.»
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Date: 2020-03-12 08:10 am (UTC)Почитаю вечером внимательно.
Кстати, а что в ваших EMTшных кругах про нынешнюю короноистерию говорят?
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Date: 2020-03-12 02:06 pm (UTC)